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I think that homosexuality is not very healthy. I think that it's none of my business whom anybody sleeps with.Congrats on the second sentence Sam! I asked him, by comment, why he thought homosexuality was unhealthy and what his justifications for such a statement were. Before my comment Sam said this in response to another commenter:
I never said that gay sex was "weird"--I said it was unhealthy. And it is. According to a study posted in the International Journal of Epidemiology, homosexuals have a life expectancy that is 20 years shorter than Heterosexuals. I'm a smoker. I'm a drinker. I am not judging anyone for who they have sex with. I just know that it is a less healthy lifestyle than heterosexuality. That's not a statement against gay rights, just a fact that makes me think that it's not a lifestyle that should be glorified. Homosexuals are undoubtedly entitled to the same rights as everyone else, including adoption and civil unions.Oh... how I shudder: lifestyle? Sorry, Sam... I don't live a "homosexual lifestyle". I live a human lifestyle... a Matt Hill lifestyle. I just happen to be gay, just like you happen to be straight. But here is what Sam said in response to my question:
Well, as I mentioned in my earlier response, homosexuals have a life expectancy that is 20 years shorter than heterosexuals. They also tend to be more depressed. Causality is, as always, a major question. It is possible that it is not homosexuality, but the social isolation that is forced on homosexuals in our society that is the main cause of these differences. Sweden, for example, is often cited as the most gay-tolerant country in the world and the life expectancy gap is much smaller there. I was careful not to write that homosexuality causes health problems, because that's not necessarily true. I have no problem with homosexuals. I think that, if you can't be happy with the opposite sex then it is probably worth it to live 20 years shorter and be happy. I just try to be rational in my argument and I don't want to ignore facts.I responded with this:
The studies which have gone to "prove" homosexuals have shorter life expectancies have all been either disproven or grossly misrepresented (usually by members of the radical, religious right). I suggest you do more studying. Thanks, btw, for not saying homosexuality causes health problems. As for the reason why there are more problems just look at the societal situation in which gay people live. Depression, higher suicide rates, higher rates of low self-esteem and higher rates of mental instabilities are all caused by oppression from society. Higher rates of smoking, drinking and other drug use are also caused by societal oppression (because people are stupid and think that these things will help to reduce their stress, depression, mental problems when all they really do is make things worse). Before saying "I think that homosexuality is not very healthy," you might want to know why there are so many unhealthy things... and what their causes are... if gay people were to be fully accepted in society, these problems would not be problems (you kind of hinted to this with the comment about Sweden). Homosexuality isn't the problem... prejudice is.Now... I know Sam, both personally and professionally. I know that he is no where near being anti-gay, but as you can see... he's using some of the same arguments that the radical, religious right uses in trying to deny gay folk the same rights as all other American citizens. Homosexuality isn't unhealthy... discrimination and prejudice are unhealthy and those are the causes of so many problems within the gay community. If we were to get rid of the discrimination and prejudice, the "problems" would disappear. Sam admitted as much with his comment about gay-friendly Sweden. The African-American community has many of the same depression, mental, health, and drug abuse problems as the gay community... does that mean living "African-Americanism" is "not very healthy." No... because the problems within the African-American community have been caused by the same things as in the gay community. I'll say it one more time... Homosexuality isn't the problem... prejudice is. Oh... and Sam, you might just want to be more careful in the words you choose when talking about this subject... you come off as a member of the radical right. ;) Now about this life expectancy study: Sam talks about a study which proves that the life expectancy of homosexuals is 20 years less than the general public. Concerning the life expectancy "study":
Another case involves a 2001 study conducted in Canada that said gay men have shorter lifespans than heterosexuals. McEwen found that this study was cited by many religious conservative organizations. McEwen contends that the original researchers had written a letter in the same year to the National Journal of Epidemology declaring that their research was being misused by the religious right, but the Canadian study continues to be misused. In 2004, Concerned Women for America cited the study in talking points against same sex marriage. In 2005, Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council cited the study in a speech in Maryland. Sprigg and the Family Research Council were fighting the implementation of a sex education program. “ There seems to be a consistent intentional pattern of misusing legitimate research as well as using discredited research by members of the religious right,” McEwen said. “One has to ask the question how can these organizations be for morality when they can so quickly and easily lie to force forward their agenda.” Also according to McEwen, the religious right continues to utitlize studies from discredited researcher Paul Cameron. Among other “dubious” honors, Cameron was kicked out of the American Psychological Association for misusing the work of his peers in order to prove their theories. McEwen claims to have discovered that in some cases, religious conservative organizations not only continue to cite Cameron’s work but at the same time omit the fact that he is their source. Source: "New study says right-wing religious organizations engage in deceptive patterns"Dr. Paul Cameron, mentioned above, of the Family Research Institute (one of many anti-gay, radical, religious right groups) has also done similar studies with similar findings (notice the other content on the website). As the quote above points out, Dr. Cameron has been disproved and discredited many times.